For those of you who missed uplate or don't have access to the live streams, you missed a rip roaring argument last night.
Aleisha took on Michelle and it was WAR! Don't bother going to the official site for info, they've glossed over the whole event, this is their official version of events;
Michelle and Aleisha have a discussion as they wait by the Diary Room. Michelle is telling Aleisha what she thinks of her. Aleisha says: “So you think I’m an attention seeker?”
Um no, there were not having a "discussion" Michelle was screeching and Aleisha was struggling to get two words in.
“Sometimes yes,” Michelle replies. “I think you’re happy to direct comments at you but not happy to receive them,” Aleisha says, adding: “I see that as a rude thing and you don’t but I just don’t worry about that any more.” “Just listen,” replies Aleisha. Michelle says: “Don’t treat me like a child.” Aleisha says she has an issue with Michelle directing obscenities towards people, Aleisha says: “I think it’s quite rude if you direct it to someone.” “I don’t care,” Michelle says. Michelle claims Aleisha is prone to loud outbursts, she also thinks she follows Billy around too much. Michelle asks: “What happens if he goes on Sunday?” “The same thing as when Emma went,” Aleisha replies, adding: “You don’t let me have my opinion.” “Because you’re gibbering,” Michelle replies. Aleisha says: “You think I hide behind Billy, am a follower, and an attention seeker.” Michelle thinks Aleisha has been avoiding her all day. Michelle says: “I think it shows you’re true colours that you’ve got a problem with me.” “I do have a problem with you, and I’ve told you and you won’t listen,” Aleisha replies. They bring up issues of having a hard life, Aleisha tells her: “You have no idea.” Aleisha is in tears and yells: “F**k off Michelle.”
What the twats fail to mention is the extreme aggression shown by Michelle, who was up in Aleisha's face screaming, pointing her finger and looked to be on the verge of violence, also the amount of swearing and illogical argument that Michelle spewed forth, the insults she threw at Aleisha and the downright bullying tactics she used to get her point across. It all resulted in Aleisha running crying to the bedroom where she sobbed for some time.
Michelle, after whinging to the other hm's about Aleisha, wasn't content to leave it there, oh no, she followed Aleisha into the bedroom where it was very evident that Aleisha was in no fit state to carry on the conversation, and they continued to argue.
They argued until early in the morning and Aleisha vowed never to speak to Michelle again. Michelle was more worried about how she was being "Portrayed" and how her actions would affect her daughter than anything else.
Here are the transcripts that I managed to get from the live streams. If they appear disjointed it's because fucking BB and his bloody censors made it so by continually cutting the streaming AND showing footage upside down!!
A- Can you just listen to me? I don't have a problem with you swearing, swear in every second word that you say.
M-No I don't need to swear.
A- just listen
M- (pointing in her face) Don't fuckin treat me like a child and don't fuckin arc up at me
A-Just listen
M- Talk fuckin normal to me
A- will you listen to what I have to say?
M-Yeah, if you talk normal to me.
A- I've been around people my whole life who speak that way (swear). It doesn't bother me at all, it's not about the swear words, it's about you...
M-But that's what you don't like, and that's me
A-Ok, if you can say that and say 'that's me' why can't I turn around to you and say 'that's me'?
M- I don't understand what you mean.
A-Ok, I don't like (michelle interrupts) don't speak yet, I don't like you going "Who the fuck is the sly bastard who nominated me?"
M- why do you have a problem with that, mate?
A-Just listen, can I just say that you believe what you want to believe, and what you say is what you believe, no matter how much we debate it, you're gonna believe that you're right, cos you're not gonna let me speak without butting in. M-I let you speak, what else do you have to offer?
A- You haven't Michelle, I will speak to you if you won't speak until I'm finished. M- I don't want to hear the same old shit, mate.
A-What do you want to know?
M- I've already said what I have to say.
A- That you think I hide behind Billy?
M- No
A- That I'm an attention seeker?
M- Not deliberately meaning to be.
A- You wonder why I have outbursts sometimes it's because I'm bored, that's my personality,that's what I do.
M- I was the same, mate, at that age.
A- With the ten weeks I've been in here without music, without family, without friends. Sitting there being only able to say five words, you'd be exactly the same. M- That's another thing, lets talk about that. I didn't see you once come out and fuckin talk to me in the worm farm. What was the fuckin go with that? (smug, sneering smile)
A- Didn't need to.
M- Oh cos you couldn't be fuckin bothered, you couldn't be fucked to come and talk to me could you?
A- did you talk to me when I only had five words to say?
M- Yes, I did actually.
A- What's your problem with that?
M- Just showed your true colours 'Leisha. That you had a problem with me and you couldn't be bothered with your fuckin arsehole to fucken come out. (NB- I have no idea what she means)
A- I do have a problem with you and I've told you I have a problem with you.
M- Yeah, what's the problem, cos I say "you's fuckheads" but that's nothing, so what else is the issue?
A- But it might be something.
M- Ok, well theres gonna be conflict like this all the time then, so obviously we're gonna have problems. This is like the worm incident. You couldn't be arsed. Fuck you then, it's not gonna bother me, and you can tell all day I didn't bother to talk to you not once.
A- I invited you in for breakfast and you talked to me then ( the rewards room)
M- I didn't bother cos I thought, 'no, alright, she wants to be like that, she can be like that, and when she wants to talk to me (inaudible) I didn't talk to you all day. A- Nah, I didn't notice
M-I didn't bother to talk to you all day.
A- Sorry Michelle, I didn't notice. I'll say to you right now, you're a very infectious person (Me- excuse me while I laugh) I think you're fun to be around and you bring life to the house, but I think you have a very clicky side where you can't handle people that have a problem with you.
M- No
A- This is my opinion, your opinion you just said.
M- It's the same old shit, keep going darling.
A- Don't worry about it then
M- So your going on about me, I can't handle people saying things to me...
A- (yelling) You've just proven me right! (Streams cut, then we have footage of Michelle up in Aleisha's face, pointing her finger and it looks like violence is going to erupt, it's that aggressive and physical)
M- (cuts in and out) my life experience...
Aleisha runs crying to the bedroom, Billy, Zac and Daniela follow. Aleisha is SOBBING, I'm talking racking, body shaking, can't speak, type of sobs)
A- I don't like it when she (michelle) swears at someone, that's ALL I said and she can't handle it. She called me a fuckwit and I said I don't appreciate that and she does my head in. She's against me. Nothing makes me cry.
M outside talking to Zoran, Travis, Joel and Jamie.
M- I've deliberately not spoken to her to see if she'd make an effort. She's got an attitude with me.
AT this point it was really hard to watch Aleisha sob. She was very distraught, and could hardly speak.
A- I know she knows exactly what's happened to me in my life, she's commented on it before and she used that as a target to get at me. My only problem with her is that I sat there and let her bag the fuck out of me and then I wasn't going to say anything nasty at all and she wouldn't let me speak. She was all "I've got ten years over you, I've had this happen to me, had so many things happen to me, and she blames alcohol. I've only had one glass.
M- ( talking to Travis and Zoran) I felt like fucking throttling her.
T- she has has a rough trot that poor girl, she's had it hard, and she's bottled up ten weeks of emotion and you've copped a spray. Leave it for tonight.
Z- I'm with Travis, chill out tonight. Tomorrow have a good chat.
Daniela walks out and Michelle quips " You missed a prime time classic" laughing.
D- Michelle, you can't just hurt people like that.
M- She was fuckin rude to me, mate!
M- I'll show you immaturity, I'm gonna go see if she's alright. Lets go in.
She has the wind taken out of her sails when she sees just how upset Aleisha is, and realises she may have gone too far. Cue the back tracking.
M- When you started crying, I wanted to embrace you, but you lost the plot on me, are you all cool?
A- yep (hiding her face behind her hair, won't look at Michelle, Michell pulls her into an awkward embrace, forcing a hug on the stiff Aleisha)
M- I know where you're coming from, I'm a mother, don't cry or you'll make me cry (laughs)
A- I don't have a problem with you, you're good value, you're lively, you're exactly what this house needs, but I really do think that you are able to give out what you think about people, but when they do it to you, you're not able to handle that.
M- How can you say that? (me- Whaaaaaaaaaat? Deluded much)
A- I don't like it when you swear at me, and I will not back down from that, and I don't know how this conversation turned to family, and I do believe that everyone has had a tough life, and I do feel terrible for people worse off than me, but for a 21 year old, I've been through a lot. I apologise if.....
M- Don't apologise for anything, mate.
A- No! I apologise, I would never make someone feel like that. In my life, I've never not got along with anyone. I'm the positive person and then you..........
M- now your family is gonna be worried. Poor Aleisha, upset.
A- Yes! they will be concerned. You actually have no idea, every week I've had a life threatened in my family.
M- Every week, darling? (huge sarcasm)
A- Yes, every week, and that's not a lie.
M- Well to me that's terrible.
A- And I've been a positive person, for someone to come in here and tell me what I feel (streams cut)
Streams come back and they're talking about nominations and how Michelle said she had no problem nominating at all. Aleisha took offence to this.
A- I think it's rude. They've been here for ten weeks. You have to be more considerate, these people are friends.
M- Yes ok, but that's the way I am.
A- Ok, but why can't you accept that this is the way I am. I don't like you swearing at me.
M- but we've gotten over this topic
A- I know that, but you're telling me to accept you for the way you are
M- Oh my God, this is going to get out of control again.
A- Just listen, Michelle. You're telling me to accept who you are.
M- You don't have to accept who I am.
And they go around in circles for another hour or so. Nothing is resolved, Aleisha goes to the diary room telling Michelle to get fucked and calls her a bitch, to which Michelle replies " You are too".
I think it took enormous courage for Aleisha to front Michelle the way she did, and Michelle has proven yet again what a moronic, ignorant, self absorbed dullard she really is.
I'm dying to see the spin BB puts on it for the Sunday show.
Michelle has effectively signed her own death warrant. The first time she's up for eviction she will go with a vote that will put to shame Emma's eviction tally.
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Aleisha VS Michelle
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OMG, I actually thought there might be some redeeming feature to her when I read that she seemed to feel a little sorry to see Aleisha in tears, but then the bullying started right back up again!
From that transcript it also seemed like the only one to stick up for Aleisha afterwards was Daniella, who called Michelle out on how hurtful she could be. If I recall right, Travis the idiot, seemed to be telling Michelle that she'd been the one to get the 'spraying' from Aleisha!!
I know we have the benefit of seeing an overview of the house, but surely the other housemates can see who is in the wrong and side with Aleisha. It sickens me how weak and concerned with their own images the others are that no one really appears to intervene and help out the person who is clearly being harassed.
Sorry Steph, but I don't think anyone could disagree with you that Michelle is a loudmouthed, crass moron.
I was very surpised at Billy. He was there to rub Aleisha's back and tell her to "take a breath" when she was sobbing, but had nothing to say to Michelle over the incident, and seemed to want to steer well clear of it all.
He had lots to say to Daniela about it but nothing to Michelle's face. Aleisha was very much on her own. The other HM's backed her up behind Michelle's back, but didn't want to say anything about it to Michelle herself, even when Michelle brought the situation up with them.
Michelle is such a bogan and a bulldozer too. I'd hate to be anywhere near her in any capacity really - talk about annoying!
I didn't see the exchange at all, but actually despite Michelle being an IDIOT I'm past feeling sorry for Aleisha as well. She's able to articulate herself pretty well when she wants to but although she hasn't been actively bullying people like Michelle (just in a passive aggressive way) I still think she has a holier than thou attitude about a lot of things and has been behind a lot of the ostricising that has gone on in the house this season.
I don't think she deserved the attack but I'm over her..over Michelle. Hm..pretty much over all of them. I hope Zack stays cool because otherwise I'll hate EVERYONE.
I'm scared to say that my husband loves Michelle. And thinks she's a lot like me. Uh oh. Time to re-evaluate.
"She speaks her mind, she's not fake, doesn't give a shit what the house think and what the public is gonna think. She's got balls, basically" (I just quoted him verbatim as he was on the way to the toilet...)
I do see similarities, but I don't think I'd approach situations in the same way. I'm usually very polite, until I blow. Unless you know me really well, at which point I'll blow when the need arises. But not without consideration. And only if you step on my toes.
But isn't that everyone? Still... time to check out this chick closely and figure out what my husband sees in her. Apart from the name.
About Billy - it was obvious when he didn't side with Hayley that he would sell his soul to come on top. That's why I can't stand him. As for Travis' comment about Michelle just getting the spray, I really do think that was his way of trying to calm her down. 'Cause lets face it, you couldn't have told her she was wrong at the same time as diffusing the situation.
Sorry, didnt read this post because Im in a hurry to say "HOW MUCH OF A CUNT IS GRETEL BEING TO JAMIE RIGHT NOW??"
A fucking lot! That's how much!
He's doing nothing but smile and she's being smarmy? WTF?
The guy obviously doesnt fall in her 'cool radar' so she's shitting all over him?
All credibility gone. Im not a fan of the guy but at least wait til he's said something out of line before you jump on his ass.
*sigh*
Thanks for listening Stephers. :x
m, True, Never been an Aleisha fan before and she did annoy me when she was Emma's lap dog, but this attack from Michelle was out of nowhere and totally over the top.
She's gonna be evicted by a landslide.
Michelle, I was told on the forums that I'm a lot like Michelle too. I could have cried!!!
I think there is NOTHING wrong with being outspoken and opinionated, but when you can dish it up but can't cop it, then it's a problem.
MissBeck, I'm gutted. I love Gretel and have defended her in the forums for years, but she lost me tonight. Her behaviour was UGLY and cringeworthy.
Aleisha wasn't brave confronting Michelle, the alcohol in her system was.
Michelle, the Alpha Male of the house, was quite simply challenged by Aleisha, who's probably raw she didn't inherit the throne the Ice Princess and Andrew respectively vacated. It must have been truly galling to have an upstart intruder become top dog!
Rationality and coherence weren't needed for such a confrontation; sheer aggression was, and that is what Michelle served in spades. The rational thing to do would've been to walk away, but Aleisha wasn't that smart.
Had it been a debate: Aleisha might've won, but this was a fight, and she got her arse kicked hard. Instead of accepting defeat gracefully, she used the oldest trick in the book: balling like a baby. Of course everyone rallied around her, of course she seemed like the poor victim, and of course everyone now hates Michelle even more and will vote her out at the first opportunity.
From the very start Michelle said she was going to stir things up. Everyone cheered and wished her well, but now she's delivered, everyone's gone soft.
Michelle is a hero, and one of the best housemates ever.
Bkeela, I'm torn. On the one hand I support your statement, but on the other, I watch a lot of the live streams and everyone in there tip toes around Michelle and bows and scrapes to avoid her yelling in their face.
The only ones to stand up to her and cop a mouth full of abuse for their troulbes was Zoran, Zac and Aleisha.
Watching the streams all you can hear is her voice, unless she's making one of her frequent trips to the diary room (goes more times than she goes to the loo) and I just can't STAND to hear her harping on all the time.
It's like she has ADD or some kind of manic disorder. It's terrible!!
On the other hand, I don't want a house full of shiny, happy, people. It's a tough one. I'm very torn.
I cannot believe this bitch is a parent with the mouth she has her kids first word must have been 'Fuck!'
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